Portable Tester Modification

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by ✿ Princess Peasants ✿, Oct 5, 2018.

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Modify PTester?

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  2. NUU

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  1. ✿ Princess Peasants ✿

    ✿ Princess Peasants ✿ Princess Donator Respected

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    I understand that there is already a current list of changes being seen by cms etc, so i completely understand if this doesn't make it to the list but id like to suggest it anyway in hopes it might change one day.

    The portable tester can currently be picked up and walked around with and that is what im interested in getting changed, this to me is such a bummer of a feature considering a T can happily turn a corner or any map and have their game ruined. I am suggesting that we modify it so that its like the health station, as in not impossible to move but not able to be carried around with by magneto stick.

    If anyone else thinks this might be a good change please comment and if you dont want it change I would be very interested in what your reasoning is.
     
  2. KingDondo

    KingDondo Getting there

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    Ummm, how about no. Instead just fix the hitbox on it so you have to be looking at it and it should have the same effect without ruining the idea of the tester.
     
  3. Animoo

    Animoo My cat is mean VIP Respected

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    -1 If it can't really be moved, it becomes stupid, especially coz the name calls it a "portable tester"
    It's really good that it can be moved around and helps a lot, especially on maps with no testers or maps where the tester is little-known/barely used
     
  4. Rainbow

    Rainbow TTT Admin Staff Member TTT Admin

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    -1 there is already a fix in the works to fix the hitbox to only work when you actually look at it. I do agree that it being portable is in fact a pretty key part in a portable tester being what it is. Being able to walk around with it to test people, and alternatively traitors being able to steal, hide it, and use their own fake tester.
     
  5. Straight_Bender

    Straight_Bender GLua C0d3r Elite Trusted

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    Modify the tester yes, but not make it immovable, basically as rainbow and king have said so it only works with direct line of sight of the tester.
     
  6. Wauler

    Wauler An old-young minge Elite Respected

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    I think you guys are thinking this wrong (Or I might be)

    I think what Princess means is that a detective or proven inno and carry a Tester right to a T and that would ruin his round because he has to not test otherwise he would be KOS but then he would be High Sus and then thats his round ruined.
     
  7. Rainbow

    Rainbow TTT Admin Staff Member TTT Admin

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    Being hsusd is not a round ruined, and thats part of the point of a portable tester, same goes with normal map testers.
     
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  8. Animoo

    Animoo My cat is mean VIP Respected

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    That scenario is pretty similar to a det asking a traitor to go down and test on a map with a tester, them refusing and as a result getting hisussed, which you don't really see ppl complaining about
     
  9. ✿ Princess Peasants ✿

    ✿ Princess Peasants ✿ Princess Donator Respected

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    I can only speak for myself here but It always completely ruins my rounds because I am constantly being watched after being high sused not just high sused and given a chance to kill people. I get that it may be called "portable" but I always took that as not a map tester not because it moveable but fair enough that makes sense now.

    What works with direct line of sight with the tester i am so confused at what you guys are talk about. The only thing ive ever found to an issue with it is it being shoved down my throat most t rounds
     
  10. UberZee

    UberZee I am the Glob-glo-gab-galab. Elite Trusted

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    -1 nah, as others have stated numerous times, it's called a portable tester for a reason. And although it may be frustrating to be caught as a traitor with one of these, that is really the entire point of the item and removing that function would really remove the whole point of it.
     
  11. Rainbow

    Rainbow TTT Admin Staff Member TTT Admin

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    Princess the thing they are talking about is when somebody hold its behind your head whilst you are healing for example, the hitbox of it would register as you clicking on the tester even though you arent looking at it, and in fact it isnt even visible on your screen most times.
     
  12. ✿ Princess Peasants ✿

    ✿ Princess Peasants ✿ Princess Donator Respected

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    Ahh fair enough never experienced this myself so was very confused
     
  13. Wauler

    Wauler An old-young minge Elite Respected

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    There is a difference between having the tester in your face and being asked to go across the map to test. Majority of the time you won’t be asked if there is still a few people alive
     
  14. Animoo

    Animoo My cat is mean VIP Respected

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    Yeah there is a difference, but if u refuse, you're gonna get hsussed either way, and when there are few ppl left and it's near the end of the round, lots of the time the det doesn't even have any creds. Also, idk if it's just me, but having a portable tester shoved in my face rarely happens and i literally cannot remember the last time that it happened to me
     
  15. ✿ Princess Peasants ✿

    ✿ Princess Peasants ✿ Princess Donator Respected

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    It happens to me more then 50 % of the time and you cant high sus a person if they are no where near a tester (unless that rule has changed) they have to be close before you can high sus them.

    Anyway guys I wanted to discuss the fact it can be picked up, I didnt make the post to hear about what can be done to "fix" it ( i wasn't even aware it was broken) I just wanted to address the damn picking it up and shoving it down peoples throats all the time it just sucks and ruins too many of my T rounds, it just makes me not even want to try while being T when it happens.
     
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  16. TinyRick!

    TinyRick! The #1 RAAF Nerd in Arcadia

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    If it's what I think it is, the hitbox thing isn't actually related to the hitbox but related to how the use function works, you can fix it by just making it a solid object when picked up by the magneto stick. One obvious reason as to why it isn't a hitbox issue is that you will not see the TargetIDHint (text that appears when you look at entities)

    I would suggest making the whole portable tester have collisions with players, however people could then push people and do physics damage which is not how I intended it in the first place

    Anyways, the reason why you can pick it up is because, as mentioned in other posts, it is supposed to be portable. The original version actually had VERY low mass (< 0.1kg IIRC) and hence you could throw it from one side of rooftops to the other, and I even saw in one case someone who was able to jump down the bottom on Canyon where a tester was and throw it back up as a sacrifice. I realised that this was stupid so I set the mass to 20kg to weigh it down. This sounds like a lot however you have to realise that the Source engine is fucked so it really isn't.

    To sum up, -1 to the increasing of the mass, but definitely +1 to fixing the bug. You can fix it by using the player's eye trace to test if they're actually looking at it and its beyond a certain distance from the player's hitbox, however I suggest just setting the Tester's mass to 0 and enable collisions when picked up by a magneto stick. The reason to set it to 0 is to prevent people from doing physics damage and to prevent people from being able to push
     
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